From the video How to Worship a Goddess
"How can a slave get the fetishes he likes without coming across as being selfish, demanding, manipulative,
and topping from the bottom?"
worshipper slave bruce's Advice: "This is a very difficult question. As
a slave, i understand that the only thing that should matter to
me is my Goddess's happiness. However, sometimes a male cannot
control his urges and this can lead to problems. In some cases,
a slave who is a masochist, or who even likes to be punished,
might actually disbehave on purpose to get his Goddess to punish
him, which is of course a way of 'topping from the bottom'. For
a Mistress-slave relationship to work well, the Mistress should
thoroughly get to know Her slave and find out exactly what his
likes and dislikes are. Then when the slave behaves, he will be
rewarded, but when he is bad, She will be able to punish him in
a manner he will not enjoy. If the Mistress does this, She will
never have this problem to worry about. For example, if Her slave
enjoys being spanked, She will know that if he misbehaves, he
will NOT get spanked. And of course, it should NEVER be up to
the slave as to what fetishes he receives. If he is obedient and
has pleased his Goddess, She will know what his likes are and
can thus reward him. But any slave who tries to manipulate his
Goddess in any way, should be banished. That of course is the
ultimate punishment which no slave would want."
worshipper slave tom s.'s Advice: "A slave needs to
always be mindful of his position. his Goddess is all that matters
and he must never forget that. However, there will be occasions
when the Goddess desires to reward Her slave by doing something
that She knows that he likes. To make those moments possible She
may ask him about what he likes and he should always answer honestly
at all times. A wonderful Goddess like Goddess Lorena is very
attentive to detail and She will not need to be reminded that
you like something. If it please Her to do so, then She will do
it. If not, a slaves' duty is to live without it.
In a longer term relationship where a slaves' desires to try something
different or a fetish that he didn't know that he had pops up,
there are a couple of ways to introduce the idea without upsetting
the Goddess. One way is to bring it up in conversation in the
form of a question. For example, a slave might be interested in
anal worship. If the subject has never been approached before
with the Goddess he could wait for an appropriate moment when
he is given permission to speak more freely then usual and then
start moving the conversation towards asking the Goddess whether
She has had any experiences in that area of BDSM. Her response
will help him determine whether She wants to continue talking
about it or whether She wants it dropped.
Another way of bringing up some more extreme areas of the lifestyle
is to write up a fantasy about it. i find it much easier to explore
some of what i may enjoy mentally about the more extreme aspects
of BDSM when i write about them in a story. Submit the story to
the Goddess for Her review and wait for Her response. If She is
interested and desires to do some of these things that you desire
She will make them happen when She determines that the time is
right. If not, then at least you'll know your answer.
The key is to ACCEPT Her answer or body language. If She doesn't
want to discuss it there is no way that you are going to get Her
to change (She is the Dominant one, remember?) so accept it as
something that isn't going to happen and don't pout about it.
Realize that a true submissive desires to give this control to
the Goddess and understands that if She is doing this for You
and not at all for Herself then She is performing a service and
not really being true to Her Female Superiority.
One last thing to think about is that a slave could also use this
denial of interest on the Goddess' part as furthering his submission
to Her. The fact that he needs it and She won't give it to him
will help prove to himself how much power he has truly given Her
(which is part of the true submissive's enjoyment of this lifestyle).
The Goddess could even choose to remind him of how much She knows
that he wants it but Her control of him is so complete that She
isn't going to give it to him and She'll demand that he still
thanks her for it (think about all the "chastity" femdoms
on the web where men want to pay some beautiful woman to control
when they can ejaculate through the use of chastity devices for
the genitalia).
i know that my Goddess, the Supreme Goddess, Goddess Lorena, is
so full of wisdom that She will allow me to express a concern
or desire that i might have and understand my need for it. If
it pleases Her to do so, She will make it happen in the future
at some point but it will be Her decision. my role is to always
remember my place and always obey Her commands. I know in my heart
that i would only be happy experiencing some BDSM activity if
it actually please my Goddess to do so. my happiness comes from
knowing that She is happy and that i have been of some use to
Her. If a slave feels the need for a fetish is more overpowering
then his desire to Serve one Goddess then he isn't sincere in
his desire to be a slave to one Goddess."
worshipper slave x.j.'s Advice: "i believe that a
Mistress and a slave must have compatible fetishes and interests.
Therefore, They/they should discuss their likes and dislikes before
getting heavily involved with each other. If their interests are
incompatible, then the relationship will tend to head toward troubled
waters.
The way i would approach this area is to ask the Mistress what type of fetishes She enjoys. In all likelihood, the Mistress will present a list of likes and dislikes. The slave should then compare this list to his own fetishes. If there is little or no match up, She and the slave are better off looking for someone else.
For me, it is important that the Mistress is having as good a time as i am. If She isn't, it's a real turn off for me. i also would feel silly getting spanked as a 'reward' - even if i liked it. This does, however, bring up the classic logic problem; that is, if You don't hit a masochist are You punishing him? And, if You spank him, are You really rewarding him? Personally, i think it best to set aside and not dwell on this type of conundrum.
Finding out what a Mistress enjoys is usually not that difficult. For example, i know that the Goddess Lorena loves being served and pampered, but She also seems to enjoy horse and dog training and several other things.
Once the slave has determined that this
Mistress is the right one for him, he should simply leave his
training up to Her and place himself entirely in Her hands. Thus,
avoiding selfishness and manipulation."
Supreme Goddess Lorena's Advice: "Today's
slaves live a life that is much different than that of a slave
of ancient times. In ancient times a slave was either kidnapped,
born into slavery, or a captive from war and then sold against
his will to the highest bidder. he would then have to do anything
he was told to do or risk being re-sold, or worse yet being killed.
In general, most slaves of today are slaves only because they
want to be. Ironically many slaves can't even find Owners who
want to own them. What a contrast to that of ancient times! It
is very well known to many in the D/s world that a slave of today
has more power than his Owner for at any time the slave can decide
that he no longer wants to be owned and he can leave. The Owner
cannot brand the slave against his will, hold him against his
will, or punish him against his will without risking a law suit,
or worse yet imprisonment. I find this to be quite unfair if the
slave had offered himself to the Owner by contract and had been
more than willing in the beginning of the 'relationship' to give
up all of his rights, but only to take it all back later and whenever
it suited him (such as whenever he did not get his way). It is
most unfair to the Owner. The only thing the Owner can do in this
situation is to never take the slave back again if the slave leaves
Her service only to try to come back again later.
How does this relate to the question at hand? Quite simply. Now
knowing that a slave is a slave by his own choice and he can also
leave at his own will, then We/we now realize that if a slave
does not get his fetishes whenever he wants then he is likely
to consider leaving the 'relationship' of 'Owner and slave'. For
the Owner to keep the slave from leaving, the Owner would have
to make sure that the slave was rewarded often enough with the
fetishes which the slave enjoys. On the other hand, for the slave
to remain Owned by the Owner, the slave would have to make sure
that he served his Owner well and did not misbehave too often.
he would then in return be rewarded for his good behaviour.
Some slaves try to make their search for an Owner easier by looking
for the 'right' Mistress or to find a 'compatible' Mistress. What
that means to him is that he wants to find a Mistress who shares
the exact same interests/fetishes as he has so he knows he will
be able to have/do those things (or he hopes to at least find
a Mistress who would be willing to do those fetishes with
him). But is it not odd to hear a slave speak or think in such
a way? Would a slave in ancient times say that he needed to find
a 'compatible' Owner? It sounds rather ridiculous considering
that a slave is there to serve his Owner and not the other way
around. How does a slave, say one who has many fetishes,
expect to find a 'compatible' Mistress who shares all of his same
interests, anyways? Even those of the vanilla world realize that
it is too much to expect a partner to share all of the
same shared interests. Especially if one has many interests and
those interests expand and change on a regular basis. I have never
rejected a slave because he had an interest or fetish that I did
not have. So why should a slave reject a Mistress on that basis?
To not respect someone for their differences is selfish. But again
We/we must remember that slaves of today are not at all like slaves
of yesterday and that today's slaves can indeed be quite selfish
and demanding. Many are not even at all interested in serving
his Owner's needs but are only interested in being made
or forced to do the things which he, ironically, already
likes to do.
Now, of course it is true that a Mistress and a slave need to
get to know one another because not just any slave will suit a
Mistress's needs and a slave can not serve just any Mistress who
wants to own him. But when a slave tries to make the Mistress
'qualify' to his own needs, then he will never find a true Mistress
because he is not a true slave.
In conclusion, to the slave I would have to say that if you want
to enjoy your fetishes while being Owned, then you should hint
to your Owner of your special interests or needs then you should
forget all about these wants and needs and concentrate only on
serving your Owner by doing all that She asks of you. Then once
She feels that you deserve a reward She may reward you with what
She know you like or need. (It is a give-and-take just like any
other relationship but you need to remember that you exist to
serve Her so it is more of a 90/10 than a 50/50 arrangement.)
Otherwise, your fetishes will constantly persist and you will
end up manipulating and topping from the bottom in order to get
them. This will jeopardise all else that you have with your Owner.
you risk losing a wonderful relationship that had been very hard
for you to find.
To the Owner, I recommend that You screen Your slaves carefully
and be extremely picky as to which slave You would allow the honour
of being able to serve You. There are many more slaves out there
than Mistresses so I suggest You do not waste Your precious time
on slaves who are only concerned about getting his own selfish
interests fulfilled through knowing You. There are so many other
slaves to choose from. Do not worry about whether You measure
up to a slave's idea of a Mistress's requirements or whether You
are compatible for him. Find a slave who's only desire is to see
his Owner happy. But still be sure to reward Your slaves with
his known fetishes but only once he has earned them."
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