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From the video School Mistress


"Some slaves do not seem to try very hard to obey and please Me and a few will even purposely misbehave.
I get the impression it is because they think they are already bad, lowly, naughty, and unworthy so they feel
they do not need to try to be good. This seems inconsiderate and selfish on their part and I feel tested and manipulated.
What should I do?"

Goddess Lorena's Advice: There are a few different reasons as to why slaves do this and it is important to first know why before You try to correct his ways.

#1. he might be a switch who hopes to train You to dominate him the way he wants and when he wants. You must find out if he likes to, or would like to, dominate Women. If he does then You must inform him that You have no such interest in tossing a coin each night to see who dominates who. Let him know that You are always Dominant and that nothing is ever going to change that. Remind him of why he had first applied to You and that he should not waste Your time if he is not going to live up to what he first promised in the beginning. Tell him that either he submits to You or he may leave.

#2. he may like a challenge and so purposely seeks to test and manipulate You. This can be very infuriating as you feel like you are playing tug-of-war with a slave who finds enjoyment in testing Your abilities, pushing both Yours and his limits, and seeing how far You will let him go before You put a stop to it. You must first try to judge if this is in fact why he is not obeying You. If it is then You will need to comfront him with such logic as life is too short for childish games and so You are only interested in being served by slaves who want to obey and behave. he will either give up and go away to seek out a more willing foe to play his challenging game with or he will shape up.

#3. Or like You said, he feels he is already a bad boy so he can freely continue to misbehave, knowing that it is expected of him (the "boys will be boys" syndrome), and the worst that can happen is he will be punished, which is what he is hoping and striving for. Again, this will be frustrating for You since You feel You are being manipulated and he is not willing to even put any effort into obeying and pleasing You. You may even feel that in doing this he does not respect You or Your feelings. If You find this is why he is misbehaving then You need to explain to him how tiresome this is becoming for You and that he needs to obey and put in more of an effort or You will dismiss him, permanently, and without punishment.

#4. he simply does not understand the rules you have given him or feel that You are very serious about them. he may also assume this is just a game or a roleplay. If You do not get the impression that he is misbehaving intentionally (such as the three previous reasons I have listed above) but he still does not seem to try hard to obey then this might be why his is acting this way. All You need to do is tell him, without scolding him too harshly, that You are very serious about being served in a manner that You deserve to be served in, and so it is important that he obeys and abides by the rules You set for him. he needs to understand that he will be punished for each disobedient act only once and if the punishment does not work then You will rid Yourself of his services.

You will find the following videos very helpful in showing You how to train slaves to obey and serve You. You may want Your slave(s) to watch them also.

How to Worship a Goddess

Goddess Party

The Life of a slave

This next video is a strict punishment video for naughty boys:

School Mistress

You will find it even very helpful to recieve tutoring from Me either by email or in person:

Tutoring for Women

Or if You prefer, I can train Your slave for You. Not only will he be trained to obey Your wishes but he will also be trained to be loyal, devoted, and committed toYou.

slave Training Program

My blessings,

Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria

Copyright © 2002 Supreme Goddess Lorena. All Rights Reserved.


Goddess Alison's Advice: "Why not beat them and ditch them if they don't smarten up? Geesh it sounds like they don't care too darn much about being Your slave so I wouldn't waste Your time if I were You. Don't You think so?"


Goddess Diana's Advice: "There isn't a slave shortage, there's only a shortage of good slaves. If the slave isn't even trying to improve, your training efforts will bear better fruit on more fertile ground. Take him back to the pet shop."


Goddess Christine's Advice: "It sounds to me that You need to take a firmer line. The slave needs to understand that if he fails to provide You with the service You require and You expect from him then he will suffer. he will need to be shown what will happen to him if he carries on failing to satisfy You and continues to misbehave. The punishment You give him will need to be unpleasant and uncomfortable for him. So many slaves enjoy their punishment and get satisfaction from it and that is good as it keeps them happy in their enslavement. But in order to correct behaviour, you need to make his punishment a deterrent either by extending the punishment he enjoys beyond what he finds bearable, or by finding some other punishment that he really
doesn't like. It is important also that you tell him very clearly why he is being punished in this way and what You expect him
to do in order to avoid such punishment in the future. You need to get him to associate his bad behaviour with something
unpleasant and You could perhaps reward him when You see an improvement - though that of course is entirely up to You.

An alternative strategy that works well in a 24/7 situation or within a long term relationship is to deny him something until
You see his behaviour improve. You need to be very strict with this though, so it is not a good idea to pick something that will
deny Yourself pleasure, otherwise he could play on it. If it is something he wants sufficiently and knows that whatever happens You will not give in, then You can be assured that things will improve.

So many slaves see it as a game and if you feel he is playing with You and testing You, then you will really need to show him
who's Boss and that You are serious, by not only carrying through everything that You threaten him with, but also by giving him a taste what will happen if he doesn't improve - and You do need to make it uncomfortable and unpleasant. Keep a tight rein on him and don’t allow him any slack until you see a real improvement. If it seems harsh and cruel, remember that like a dog with its Trainer, if he is truly submissive, he will respect You and love You for it, and he will want to improve so as to give You better service and more pleasure. After all, that is what he is there for."


Lady Kyla's Advice: "They are trying to manipulate you, but don't let them. If a slave is misbehaving too often, I think you should punish him with something he does NOT like. I don't believe that punishing a man by spanking him or tying him
up is much of a punishment if that is his fetish, now is it? A lot of 'submissives' will misbehave in hopes that your choice of punishment will be something that gets them hot. And if a slave continually tries to manipulate me, I put him in his place once and for all. I have no use for manipulative slaves. But that is my personal opinion."


worshipper slave bruce's Advice: "Unfortunately there are a lot of slaves who have a fetish for being punished. In order to do this, they will purposely misbehave so their Mistress will get mad at them and have to punish them. This is a no win
situation for the Mistress. She is not getting the service She deserves, yet if She punishes the slave, She is actually giving him what he wants! There are only two solutions for this. The first is to find a punishment which the slave truly does not like. For example, i know a Mistress who punished Her slave by making him learn to cook Her meals. The poor slave had never cooked anything in his life before, and this was really an unwelcome chore for him. Barring this, the only other recourse for the Mistress is to banish him. It is truly an honor to serve a Superior Woman and She should not have to deal with time wasters who are not
entirely devoted to Her."


worshipper slave x.j.'s Advice: "While it is always possible that an unrulely slave can be dimissed, i believe that this should only be done as a last resort.

It seems to me that many slaves are naughty in order to test the Mistress, and see how much they can get away with. It is at this time that the Mistress must show the slave who is the boss. Therefore when a slave misbehaves, the Mistress should punish him. This be done by caning him, removing orgasm privileges etc.

There is a good chance that frequent punishment will help improve the slave's behavior. If the slave's behavior becomes beyond the Mistress's control, She should dismiss him."


worshipper slave c.'s Advice: "It would appear that this sort of behaviour is designed to get a reaction from You, by doming from the bottom. These individuals, in an attempt to have their selfish fetish needs satisfied by upsetting You enough, hope that You will cater to them by punishing them. This situation is artificial, disrespectful and very unsatisfying to both parties, as it is based purely on manipulation.

This is a case of the self-gratification of the slave at the expense of the Female. Perhaps an appropriate response would be to ignore these infantile manipulations of the slave as not worthy of any attention and proceed without reacting, rather than responding to their scripted scenarios."


worshipper roger k.'s Advice: "And so why bother? If the slave’s attitude annoys You, i guess it’ll be a good idea to let him know how You feel about his behaviour. But if, nevertheless he continues to misbehave, it’ll be a good idea to throw him out and find Yourself a new slave, someone who actually serves a purpose. You’re a Goddess and You deserve to be properly served and worshipped."


worshipper danny k.'s Advice: "As a slave, i have been bad in this way, and must agree with what You have wisely stated. i do also believe that some slaves misbehave for attention from Goddess, which is also a selfish act. Being put into the doghouse was my punishment for my selfish act, which saddened me because instead of getting attention, i got no attention and felt isolated from the Woman i serve, worship, and adore. Another method that Goddess Lorena used was punishment payments or fees. These also worked to correct my ill ways, and at the same time helping Goddess."


worshipper frank s.'s Advice: "As an accepted worshipper of Holy Goddess Lorena, i feel that this month's topic for the advice board applies to those, like myself, who desire a more cerebral rather than physical state of submission.

It is my belief that true domination and submission is really in place in the mind of the submissive as opposed to being forced into him through the tip of a whip. When the questioner in the topic relates that She has a hard time understanding why some of Her slaves do not seem to be 'trying very hard' to obey Her and to please Her, i can think of my own experience.

A Mistress often selects a slave in the first place because She feels She may be able to use his basic intelligence for Her own benefit. If She doesn't give his mind exercises to keep it occupied, and concentrates only on the physical pain aspect of his training, then She places Herself in danger of losing his interest. The great strength of Holy Goddess Lorena is Her recognition that training is not completely physical. She is a major practitioner of the conquest of the mind of a slave. She starts this when that slave is but a trainee. This keeps his interest in his training at first, and later allows him to know that he is supposed to think about his slavery and that he will be afraid to try to improve himself, as he has been allowed to think from the inception of his training. The very fact that we are allowed to answer provocative questions and that our thoughts are actually solicited on the advice board is a demonstration of this.

i wonder if the slaves of the Mistress, who asked the question, are perhaps reaching out for a more advanced form of training. Training methods which may incorporate mind exercises as well as the well known physical training. The obedience and devotion, which the slave himself craves, has a much clearer focus when it is inserted into his mind emphatically. i believe that this mind insertion can best be achieved if he admires the forceful intelligence of his owner. Her intelligence will stick with him better as She demonstrates Her intellectual domination over him. i believe that, in the long term relationship, he will learn to respect this domination of the mind more that he will fear the physical pain he must endure. Her mind will keep him as a slave, Her whip is really an enforcement tool, it won't work as well if the whip is the primary method of training.

A great Goddess, as Goddess Lorena is, leads Her slaves as much as She pushes them. They become better slaves that way.

Tonight i will be going to bed with the high heels of Goddess Lorena in my hands. i do this every night of my life. i do this because thoughts of my Deity, Goddess Lorena, are deeply embedded in my brain. These thoughts were put there by Her words and Her intellectual dealings with me. They weren't put into me through the use of immense physical pain. They stay there because i admire Her mind and Her work ethic. I trust Her to lead me into a slavery where i learn about things concerning my slavery and my life as a slave will expand, though always within the box which She places me.

The Mistress who penned the question for this month's topic, i believe, should pursue the minds of Her slaves as much as She assaults their bodies."


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