Given by Supreme Goddess Lorena
Board 02
Updated: February 28, 2002
Updated by: Supreme Goddess Lorena
I'm still trying to come to
grips with the fact that the thought of being ruled and dominated
by a woman, turns me on. It's a bit disconcerting. Your web site
has shown me that a woman can be a Domme and still be a caring
person.
Lewis
Dear lewis,
Being turned on by wanting Women to dominate you is nothing to
be ashamed of or something that should make you feel that you
need to come to grips with it. Perhaps society or other sources
of influence make you feel that Women being dominant is not right
or normal. But then your second comment, about how you are happy
to learn that a Woman can be caring while being dominant, may
be the main reason as to why you feel this way. Do you feel disconterted
about being dominated by a Woman because you worry it may mean
that She doesn't care about you? It is true that if a Woman is
dominant then She will be demanding, aggressive, somewhat selfish,
and want to be served and catered to. But She can still do that
and consider your needs also. However, She does not exist to play
out your fantasies or to serve you by doing what you want. you
are a slave and a slave is to serve, not to be served. When trying
to find a dominant Woman to own you, make sure She is caring,
understanding, considerate, not a switch, not a slave Herself,
not married to a Dom male (unless you are okay with that), health
and safety cautious, a real Woman and not a man pretending to
be a Woman, and not just in it for the money (though keep in mind
that financial security is very important to Women and that Women
have bills that need to be paid too).
Good luck.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
my God, Lorena,
i like to serve women so much. my question is: i would like to
serve beautiful women (like you). i dont like to serve ugly women
or some who are not in shape. i feel guilty about that.
your slave, tony m.
That is a very good question, slave. It is a common problem. But
beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it is also possible to
serve a Woman who you may not find beautiful on the outside. If
you give love a chance to grow by looking deeper than Her outer
appearance then you will grow to love Her anyways and so will
still find Her worthy of serving, regardless of Her looks. Though
it is indeed hard for men to be able to look past the outer surface
of a Woman as men are visual creatures and so they see and desire
attractive Women more. you should indeed feel guilty about this
because it is wrong and unfair to both attractive and nonattractive
Women but it is also normal and understandable that you feel this
way. But remember, even I too will eventually get old and ugly.
Would you feel Me unworthy of being served just because I grew
old just like everyone else? What about the inner qualities which
I have as well as outer qualities? I once had an applying slave
feel so rejected by Me that he had lashed out at Me and said that
no one would want to serve Me once I was old and ugly and so I
would then have no more slaves. But was he right in saying that?
I would not want such shallow slaves anyways. I am much more than
just a pretty face so My life does not end once My looks are gone.
I would like to served by a slave who appreciates ALL that I am.
Besides, would you like to be rejected by a Mistress because of
your looks and age?
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
Goddess, i have had some unusual feelings since my Owner demanded
that i submit proof of my personal finances. This feeling of nervousness
is not that unusual. i felt this same way about my personal information
when i got married and shared it with my wife (now exwife). i
have always been a somewhat private person. Maintaining this confidential
information about myself gave me some feeling of control in my
life, as well as kept me from feeling vunerable. Once this information
is My Owner's, i feel my individuality will disappear, and i am
scared of this. i thought about Her demand and imagined that She
might also demand to know such things as checking and savings
account numbers and investment information. Goddess, please help
me understand these feelings. Goddess, am i unusual, or do Your
slaves and worshippers feel the same emotions of fear and loss
of control when subjected to these requirements? But do they also
feel the same wonderful joy and honor each time they give You
contributions as i do to my Owner?
Why do you think you truly fear being honest with your Owner about
your finances, slave? In what way does being private about your
money give you individuality? Don't you really mean than you feel
your money gives you freedom? Is it not actually the loss of freedom
that you fear? you said: "Maintaining this confidential
information about myself gave me some feeling of control in my
life, as well as kept me from feeling vunerable." Do
you not want your Owner to have control over you? Many slaves
will say that they want to give a Mistress COMPLETE control over
his life but as soon as it involves money he will not give Her
that control. The reason being because that is where true control
lies and he knows it. he understands that having control over
his own money still keeps him in control of his life. So in fact
he had not been sincere about wanting Her to have control over
him. Thus he will only give Her the control he wants Her to have,
making it so that he controls Her and not She who controls him.
(Not a real D/s relationship). Know that you are not truly owned
unless you are also controlled, otherwise the slave contract you
signed (or verbally agreed to) is simply just a piece of worthless
paper filled with insincere and empty promises. Though if you
do want to be owned and controlled by your Owner but you
just fear submitting to this level of commitment at this time
and would rather continue to give your Owner contributions until
you feel more comfortable about giving Her COMPLETE control over
your money, then you must tell Her that. Even though it may disappoint
Her, it is best to be truthful with Her at all times. Being honest
from the beginning prevents you from ever having to lie later
to cover up any past lies you may have made. She should feel pleased
about your honesty but you may have to reassure Her that it is
not that you do not trust Her but that it is just an insecurity
you have about giving up control over your money and that you
will try your best to get over this feeling so that you can submit
to Her COMPLETELY, as you truly desire to and had promised to.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
Hello Goddessboss. I hope a Goddess my help me in any way.
I noticed you are out in BC. I have a problem which I wish to
ask. I live in .......... Ontario, far away from you beautiful
Mistresses and am looking for someone whom I may contact with
permission, in or around the ......... area. If you can help this
male slave willing to do as told please contact me.
Your submale, as I wish to be, rick
Dear slave rick,
The Woman of your dreams is worth travelling for.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
Goddess,
Thank You so very much for the praise which You have bestowed
upon Your humble worshipper for the advice i submitted for the
advice of the month board. i would like to add one more thought
on the subject. Many years ago when i knew that my attraction
to Woman was different from other men, and i started to try to
get my fetish longings fulfilled. i would always wonder about
the Women who called themselves Dommes, and who professed to want
to control me, and train me, and mold me. i wondered why they
were so satisfied with just getting the session fee. It always
seemed to me that they would be better off with eight or ten of
us, stripping us of our finances, taking our future earnings.
In other words becoming completely in charge of our lives. But
they always seemed to be more interested in the session fee. That
is when i realized that the vast majority of them were merely
actresses.
worshipper frank s.
Dear worshipper slave frank,
There are always two sides, slave. No Woman on this earth would turn away a larger amount of money and instead prefer to have only a session fee. Obviously She has so far been unable to find any man who would willingly turn over his complete earnings and finances. The slave's willingness to do this is important since the majority of so-called slaves complain that they had been "taken", "swindled", or "set up", because the Woman did not give him what he had wanted in return after he had given Her a larger sum of money. you may feel that a Woman who settles for small tributes, or who charges small fees for sessions is not acting like a real Domme but then keep in mind that the slaves She encounters may not be acting like real slaves since they are expecting something in return for their money.
It is wonderful knowing that you and
I are in a much different situation. We/we are both real and you
know that it is your duty in life to contribute your slave earnings
to Me so that I may maintain My Goddess Temple, pay Goddess club's
costly website bills, invest My valuable time in training slaves
and tutoring Women, and continue to live lavishly as a Goddess
as I so richly deserve.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
Goddess Lorena,
i wrote to You earlier regarding Your 10 commandments for trainee
slaves. Tell me please if this is acceptable to You:
Before i ask my Wife for permission to come during sex, i will
first ask You for permission to ask Her. Before i masturbate,
i will also ask for Your permission.
YOUR response was this:
slave, this is not only acceptable but it is also expected.
As it states in your trainee rules, you must serve and obey your
Wife first since She is your first Owner (unless She has no need
of you) but when it comes to your orgasms you must ask your Trainer
first since you are in training. So yes, you must ask Me first
then ask your Wife. If you do not hear back from Me in time (after
2 hours) then you ask your Wife and you obey Her answer. If I
say no, then you do not ask your Wife. However, if I say no yet
She then initiates sex and wants you to cum then you must honour
Her request since She is your first Owner. Any questions?
Yes, Goddess Lorena, i have the following questions:
Since You gave me permission to ask my Wife if i could come, i
asked Her for this privilege this morning. She had teased me the
night before, and this morning. She had me give Her oral sex for
a short while this morning too, but She did not have an orgasm
Herself. She was finished teasing me and dressing for work by
the time i asked Her if i could come. She granted me this request
by masturbating me to orgasm Herself. i feel as if i was acting
selfishly by requesting an orgasm even though i had not provided
Her with one, yet i was very desperate since i had not come for
eight days.
My first question is this:
Once i have Your permission to ask my Wife if i may come, under
what circumstances is it acceptable for me to ask Her? Can i ask
Her when She is just teasing me? Should i wait until She chooses
to have sex?
Should i wait until after i think She has had all the orgasms
that She wants? Any guidance You give me would be appreciated
and of course followed by me.
My second question is this:
Do You want me to report to You when i have an orgasm, as i have
done above? (Yes) If so, how much detail do You want me to give
You. i don't want to offend You, so i thought it best to ask You
about this now.
trainee slave lance
Dear trainee slave lance,
Seeing as how your Wife was finished and was dressing for work,
it appeared She did not want you to cum (or perhaps She did not
care either way. Only you would know that). But normally if a
Woman is training a slave and She is finished with him then he
should not be asking for anything more. She knows you liked being
teased and that you like having your orgasms withheld so do not
confuse Her by asking for orgasm if She is finally willing to
withhold you from cumming (or She may give up on doing it again).
She purposely teased you the night before then teased you again
the next day. The only time you should step in and ask permission
for it is if She does not offer it when you know you have had
it withheld for almost one to two weeks and you figure She has
either forgotten, lost track of the date, or does not care whether
you withhold it longer or not. Only then should you be keeping
score as a way to help Her in remembering. If She says no and
wants you to wait longer then that is great as it means She is
now willing to control your orgasms and deny you orgasms.
Now about your second question, it is a very good question. I
do not want a slave writing Me about his orgasms untruthfully
and only as a way to talk about his fantasies with Me. I am not
a 1 900 number and do not wish to be used as one. However, as
long as you are being truthful in everything you are telling Me
and you are doing it only as a way to please your Wife and not
yourself then you may continue to tell Me about it and ask for
more guidance.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
"i was thinking how special it would be for a child to
have a mother like You. i observed the capacities of a few women
i know who have large families and You have these capacities because
You can manage a stable of several slaves, train several slaves
and have contact with probably a lot of applicants and other interested
men like me. Thank You for doing that. i know You do not have
children but i have had some discussions with several people about
the subject and am interested in Your opinion about it. How do
You think about starting a family as a dominant Woman?"
I could not possibly think of having kids at this time in
My life while having so many slaves to train. Besides, these slaves
act and misbehave enough like children anyways. However, My opinion
on people having children while living the D/s lifestyle is that
it is fine as long as the children do not witness BDSM acts. In
regards to children witnessing Female Supremacy in their home,
it should be viewed as being absolutely acceptable to raise kids
to believe in Female Supremacy and to see their father show respect
for and serve his Wife in a subservient manner. There are many
Women who are beaten by their abusive husbands in front of their
children and that should be seen as being a much bigger crime
than a child seeing his/Her father catering to their Mother. When
a child witnesses and has memories of seeing his Mother being
beaten, it leaves permanent scarred memories for the child and
it also often influences the child to become either an abuser
also or a victim of abuse. Whereas a child who grows up seeing
a husband catering his to Wife's needs leaves only memories of
love, respect, and devotion.
Another opinion I have on this subject is that I have known many
slaves who prefer that a Mistress not have children. I feel it
is most likely because he thinks children would get in the way
of him getting his fetishes whenever he wants them. This is selfish
though because even though a Woman may be Dominant it does not
mean She may not want to raise children. If a Woman wants to have
children then She should be able to have them without worrying
about losing slaves serving Her because of it.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess
club and Queen of Femaria
While contemplating seeking out a
dominant woman, and after viewing many websites, I have a few
questions. I'm wondering how flexible most dominant women are
and is catering to a man's needs nullifying to her dominant nature.
Anyway, here goes:
Orgasm Depravation: This comes up a lot, but it seems to me that
a woman would want to condition a sub by letting him have an orgasm
and associate it with being dominated. I know I would be very
turned off not ending the experience by cuming, and cuming would
help me find out my limits because I would want to please her
and hopefully, in time, be able to take what she
needs to do to me.
Verbal Abuse: I can understand being told that women are superior
to men, and that I'm here to please her, but the contempt, i.e.,
worm, pig, etc., is a turn off. I picture loving dominance.
Kissing: I really love kissing, especially when a woman is a particularly
wet kisser. Although I haven't done it often, drinking a woman's
saliva is wonderful. Do dommes let their subs kiss them on the
mouth? This is never mentioned. Would I have to give this up?
Golden Showers: Although your site doesn't discuss this (unless
I missed it), most sites do. Do most dommes require this? One
site I read says it's a must to keep a man in the proper state
of submissiveness. The sites don't go into specifics though. Do
women piss on a man's body, face, in his mouth or all of the above.
Do they have to swallow and if so, is it safe to do so?
I realize that if I get into this scene I will be physically abused,
i.e., spanked, caned, slapped, etc., in order to establish who's
the boss, so how flexible can I expect a domme to be?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer my questions.
Lewis
PS: I hope I'm addressing you correctly.
Dear lewis,
Most experienced Dominant Women would know that Her slaves needs
to feel fulfilled also or he is likely to wander and seek fulfillment
elsewhere (Sadly, the days of having a branded slave who ran away
dragged back to his Owner's home are gone). However, a slave must
realize that he is just a slave and who ever heard of an Owner
having to please a slave? Isn't a slave supposed to serve and
please rather than to be pleased? Do you see what I'm saying?
It is obvious that times have changed and that an Owner must now
consider the slave more but that a slave still exists to serve
and so should remember that otherwise he risks being tossed out
on his ear. It is in a way just like any other relationship. Both
must feel satisfied and fulfilled but only to a certain degree.
The slave must be willing to lose and give up more often since
he is the less important person in the relationship. Not that
he isn't important. But that his needs should be less important
than Hers.
This is the main reason why a Domme cannot find a good slave and
why a slave cannot find what he inappropriately calls the "Right
Mistress". he wants more of this, She wants more of that.
If She made certain that he got what he liked or needed and he
was careful not to ask for it too much and to just wait until
She felt he had earned it, then the two of them would be in a
fulfilling "relationship". Of course a good match of
"fetishes" or similar interests helps also. I liked
to be served alot so My slaves need to enjoy doing servitude or
else they do not last being Owned by Me.
Now to answer the questions you had asked about some fetishes:
Orgasm Depravation: Many slaves like this being used as a way
for him to feel more trained. It does work with some but other
slaves only use it as a way to intergrade sex into his training.
Serving a Woman should not always have to include sexual acts
or a release at the end (No, really!). Some Dommes find that slaves
manipulate Her alot in order to have orgasm or not to have it.
That is called "Topping from the bottom". Many Pro Dommes
won't allow a release because Her service is then seen as being
prostitution. So for a variety of reasons you will find that some
Dommes like using this as a way to train their slaves and some
do not. I use it only as a reward system and only if the slaves
does not manipulate for Me to do it.
Verbal Abuse: Not all slaves can handle
feeling degraded. Some take the insults rather personally and
they feel unloved or unliked. I can see that you prefer to have
a loving relationship with your Mistress. If She insults you out
of anger then let it wash over you just as any man would have
to. She is just upset. If She does it as a way to Dom you then
gently inform Her that verbal abuse makes you feel unloved and
that you are sensitive about it. She hopefully takes that into
consideration.
Kissing: Again, you like a more close intimate relationship with
a Mistress. However, even if She does like you in this way She
may not feel that kissing a slave is appropriate. She may also
worry that it might change your behaviour and the way you treat
Her. you should respect that and not push Her to kiss you. But
do let Her know how it makes you feel when She kisses you and
She will remember it and perhaps will kiss you as a reward for
a good deed you have done. Communication is very important.
Golden Showers: I do discuss this is some of My articles. you
just need to read more of My articles. There is quite a difference
of opinion about the drinking of urine. I have heard from some
in the medical field that it is fine and other people have heard
the opposite from doctors. It is of course waste that the body
rids itself of and a way to rinse out the body. But does it means
that the contents are bad if entered the body a second time and
whether it would even make a difference if drank by the same person
(yuck) or by a second person? It is yet to be solved. Some slaves
liked to be peed on, some just like to watch a Women pee, some
like to drink it from a cup, and some like to drink it straight
from the Woman's vagina. Each slave's "tastes" vary.
I say, to each his own as long as it is what the Woman
wants to do.
Now, about your very last question. you should not "expect"
anything of a Domme. She will do whatever She feels is appropriate
and needed in order to train you. However, you do have a right
to inform Her of something if you feel She is being unfair, unjust,
uncaring, unsafe, illegal, etc. just so long as you ask/tell Her
submissively, respectfully, and maintain your position as Her
slave as you do so. Not every Domme knows everything and not every
Domme is sane. There are many in the "scene" who only
use the scene in order to steal, use, abuse, and even kill people.
Be submissive but also be careful and smart.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
"Is there anything wrong with me? I'm really reluctant
to write (I know I'm not worthy), but I don't know what to do.
Sometimes I feel like a freak for the feelings I've had. When
I was a boy, I dreamed of being captured by and made an Amazon
slave. I guess that dream never really died. I'm not into fetish
scene, but there is still a yearning to be a slave in a society
ruled by Women. I have a yearning to serve Women and to be owned
by a Woman as her authentic property in much the same way as she
would own a horse or a dog, to be seated at her feet with my leash
held tightly in her hands. However, I just can't get passed the
feeling that I may be some kind of freak or pervert because I
have those feelings."
Do you ever wonder why you feel that these feelings make you
a freak? It is obviously because you know that the majority of
society is male dom orientated and that they would think there
is something wrong with you because you put Women up on a pedestal
instead of allowing men to control Women. Is worshipping Women
wrong, though? Do Women not (on average) give life, nurture and
care for all living things, and not care to kill or be violent?
How could it be wrong to look up to those wonderful and pure qualities?
Do you really think Eve was at fault for man's downfall to live
a life of sin? Who wrote the bible which blamed Women for such
a crime? Was it not written all by men? Was adam not responsible
for his own actions and choices?
To answer your question, you are in no way a freak. People who
destroy living things and this earth are the freaks.
I would love to chase after you and capture you. It too is a fantasy
of Mine to be a Amazon Queen and to capture and enslave men. Although,
in Goddess club it is hard to do that because the men are too
willing to be captured. you have found your way home, slave.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and
Queen of Femaria
Dear Goddess,
I really enjoyed your stories about your childhood and wicked
wanda. I am a black male pisces who like you isn't into s&m
and switching and all of that. I believe that dominant females
are the most highly evolved form of life, moreover i believe that
white and jewish dominant females are the quintessence of biological
and artistic perfection. My problem has always been that i am
attracted to dominant women who are just so far above me- i tend
to fall for women who have a certain scorn for me that just can't
be broken, i've never been able to turn this tension into anything
real because i'm just not smart enough. i read your article on
attracting a Goddess but it's so difficult. I guess it all comes
down to the fact that they have never pursued me. do goddesses
pursue weak men or do weak men bore Goddesses, do they really
want an equal relationship with a well paid man? I hope some of
this makes sense. anyway i have a page of prayers to Dominant
Goddesses that you might like. if you get a chance maybe you could
tell me if you like any of the prayers. I love your pages and
will visit them again, thank you so much for the articles and
everything.
BLake
Dear BLake,
Thank you for your kind words. In regards to your question, I
have visited your website and I believe I know where your problem
lays in attracting a Goddess. you see, men often have a darker
view of Dominant Women. they often perceive Her as being either
a witch, a cruel seductress, a vampire, etc. This is very evident
is movies (movies which were made by male producers, directors,
and writers), in the bible (which of course was written by men
who preferred to portray these Women as being evil: Eve, Delilah,
Salome, Queen of Sodom, Samarra, Bathsheba, etc.) and in recorded
history (which was also recorded only by men. men who claimed
that young Cleopatra had enough power to seduce both Julius Caesar
and Marc Anthony to death). But Goddesses need not be dark in
order to be in control of their lives or to control men. They
can be of the white light also. They can control and dominant
and still be kind, caring, and good. That is a true Goddess. It
is easy to be bad, selfish, and uncaring. It takes an effort to
remain good at heart.
Or do men feel that She is evil because She has power? Do men feel threatened by this and so see any Women in control as being evil?
If you perceive Dominant Women as being evil then you may make the mistake of treating them accordingly or you may even be more attracted to Women who have an obvious dark side in the hopes that they will be more Dominant. This need not be this way. Thinking and feeling this way may result in you scaring away a true Goddess who does not find any appeal in the darkside. She may also not want to be thought of as being bad or evil just because She wants control over Her own life. I strongly recommend that you see things in a different light. A bright white light for that matter.
Also, about your reference to Women and
weak men, Women worry about showing their Dominance to the wrong
person who may persecute Her for it so She may not show that side
of Herself too openly around those who She does not know. you
may have to learn how to approach Women who you feel might be
Dominant and hint to Her that you wish to serve Her and to make
Her life better. Knowing these things, I now recommend that you
read My article "How to Meet a Goddess" again.
Supreme Goddess Lorena of Goddess club and Queen of Femaria
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